Libyan Uprising

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PCPeter774
05/25/2011

Libyan Uprising 5

Just what the world needed another violent revolt.

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Djahuti
03/22/2011

Libyan Uprising 4

Appears to be gaining in significance.People all over are sick & tired of their corrupt leaders.However,it is interesting how the same folks who cheered Bushs unilateral attack on Iraq are so quick to paint Obama as a "warmonger". I'm not for bombing people,and think war should be a last resort.I think people like Ghadaffi & Saddam would be better dealt with by sending Special Ops to aid those in their own country who want them out,instead of killing our own guys & civilians & doing billions worth of "collateral damage" (so Halliburton or some other creepos can "rebuild" at our expense!) That said,it is pretty slanted to compare the situation in Libya with our attack on Iraq.I'm watching how Obama handles it,and for everyones sake,I hope it doesn't turn in to another quagmire.

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GenghisTheHun
03/21/2011

Libyan Uprising 5

UPDATED MARCH 21, 2011: It goes to show you. The minute I give Barack Hussein some credit he shoots me in the ass! This Libya deal is the ultimate in stupidity!


ORIGINAL COMMENT MARCH 16, 2011: Uncle Sam has NO national interest in this sand pile, and the Obama Administration is doing the right thing by doing nothing. All this mewing about a no fly zone ignores the fact that imposing a no fly zone is an act of war. Also, it takes a long time to marshal the military assets to be able to impose a no fly zone. I realize that France and England and Togo and Bouvet Island are calling for the no fly zone; however, it is Uncle Sap who has to spend the dough and risk American lives for it.

Good job, Barack Hussein, for a change.

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Littledragon
03/20/2011

Libyan Uprising 4

Contrary to popular belief, president Obama did get congressional approval for this war.

The signed document is sitting right next to his birth certificate.

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Guy D
03/20/2011

Libyan Uprising 3

The U.S/U.N is all about human rights in Africa now? I think we're about a couple of million murders too late.

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numbah16tdhaha
03/19/2011

Libyan Uprising 4

Cue Obama to the rescue!

AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!

(Sorry about the "Team America" thing)

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FranksWildYear s
03/16/2011

Libyan Uprising 4

Given that the current service standard for ousting a dictator and taking the reigns of power is approximately 3 weeks, I don't know that anyone has the stomach for a protracted conflict that could run past a couple of months. The West should set aside what they can afford for support and possibly hardware to any Arab state(s) that want to take a leadeship role in bringing peace, freedom and justice to the region but keep their people at home. The line between peace keeping a conquest is so faint that nobody ever seems to notice when it was crossed.

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Chalky
03/02/2011

Libyan Uprising 4

Muammar Gaddafi for Center Square. No, I'm not John Davidson, host of Hollywood Squares, I'm just a RIA guy....Ben, Chalky, you're pal.....motherfucker to a lot of you :P (just kidding).

Seriously, I feel bad for Libya being under this guy's rule. I'm not sure what the opposition is all about. Personally, I think the biggest pile of puke is Hillary Clinton saying how she wants to press charges against Gaddafi and see him overthrown. Go screw yourself, Hillary. Maybe she should NOT be doing a photo-op w/Gadaffi's son then. It's like the picture of Hussein and Rumsfeld. Go screw yourself, Rumsfeld. I'd like to see Gadaffi out, but who knows what the opposition has up their sleeve. Anything has to be better than Gadaffi you would think.

Well, I'm off to my half-day substitute teaching assignment :O)

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SCIENCEENGINEE R
02/24/2011

Libyan Uprising 5

We ask the UN, NATO, and AU, to take out Qadhafi, and his sons. They are making a lot of noise. Qadhafi himself is accusing everyone who stands up against him to be bin Ladens. The stakes are high, and he is mad, shooting randomly, and he is continuing to slaughter them. This is going to be a fine lesson for any dictator in Africa. The world have to respond to this psychopath. A hard measure must have to be taken against him to save lives, or he and his Washington friend will annihilate the people. He is sickening to watch, making these noises accusing the people who speak up against him as terrorists. Same language the West use to oppress the world.

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abichara
02/24/2011

Libyan Uprising 4

Not terribly shocking that the wave of revolts against aging kleptocrats has reached Libya. Activity started picking up about 2 weeks ago, but the real momentum got going a couple of days ago with the fall of the Egyptian government, just across the border.

Right now, the eastern half of the country (which is culturally and almost administratively separated from the capital Tripoli in the West) is controlled by military forces agitating for a change in regime. Two major tribes that were never in Qadhafi's pocket have also made their intentions clear that they will back the revolt along with various public figures within and outside the country. People who have been waiting over a generation for a crease to open are making their move, for better or worse.

Unlike Mubarak in Egypt, Qadhafi seems ready to challenge the domestic and international forces agitating for his removal, and it is likely to get very bloody before its all said and done. Also, we can't rule out the potential of NATO forces getting involved here.

The Libyan government is well known for its reputation as a hotbed for anti-American activity, but over the past 8-10 years, the country has opened up dramatically to Western investment and influence. It was a move of self-preservation on the part of Qadhafi, who realized after Saddam Hussein's fall that the Americans meant business. That, and he did have a common enemy with Islamicists who sought to destablize his regime. By 2009, US-Libyan relations were largely normalized, if but for a few rocky points here and there.

Libya in recent years though began to develop its massive oil reserves, especially in the south of the country. While Qadhafi was more open to Western influence, he still clung to vestiges of Nasserite nationalism that originally inspired the officers coup that brought him to power in 1969. The West has never looked kindly to that ideology, even to the point of equating it with a form of terrorism. Nationalization of assets, a non-aligned political stance, and independent modernization are all cardinal sins in the eyes of the US, even if the regime in question is secular in orientation. Yet, for all of the Libyan government's openings to the West, they still didn't have much control over the country's financial framework.

Recently Qadhafi started doing business with China and Russia on national infrastructure projects like water works, pipelines, and refineries. The Italians under Berlusconi (another government that has gone anti-American in recent years) are also involved in Libya. These moves, along with Qadhafi's continued support for Iran's nuclear ambition's, stymied American relations with the country over the past year or two after years of progress. Like other North African/Middle Eastern/Asian countries, this one is being targeted for regime change, much along the lines of Egypt and Tunisia, with the purpose of putting in a new government that works towards Western interests more vigorously.

However, Qadhafi is no Ben Ali or Mubarak. He's willing to "go to the mattresses" and fight rival clans and military factions, even if it tears the country asunder, even if it means a potential foreign occupation by NATO forces. Stay tuned on this one. More updates to come...

UPDATE 1: The trouble with all these revolutions is predicting the direction that these countries will take after the fall of its governments. Unlike more mature democracies, these places generally don't have strong and active opposition movements. Some like in Egypt and Tunisia have groups that act with Western funding and help, but in places like Libya, where the political system is very closed and tightly controlled, that doesn't happen much. The political order in these countries is very atomized. That increases the risk of great political instability after the fall of any government, much as we saw after Saddam Hussein fell in Iraq.

In Libya's case, the US does have contacts with expat community in London, Switzerland, and Egypt, but these figures lack internal support within the army and the tribal units. We have seen a few generals within the army declare their opposition to Qadhafi, but the army itself has been kept weak to prevent any coups. The real source of power within Libya are his personal guard and the paid mercenaries that he's trucking in from parts of Africa.

Bottom line, anything can happen after it's all said and done. We don't know what we're going to get. Look at what has happened in Iraq. The quislings that we brought in to run the show like Ahmad Chalabi turned out to be Iranian agents, thus shoring up that countries position in the region. Saddam Hussein was certainly anti-American, but he acted as a bulwark against iran. Same went for the Taliban in Afghanistan. Politics in this part of the world is messy in good times, with alliance patterns shifting quickly. Imagine now.

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CanadaSucks
02/22/2011

Libyan Uprising 4


Four stars since it appears that Libyans were late to the "it's time to show our (insert autocratic/religious/military dictator here) that we've had enough." Still, considering that my money's on good ol' Khaddafi (sp?) for bringing the lumber hard - real soon. That alone merits four.

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irishgit
02/22/2011

Libyan Uprising 5

And the hits just keep on coming.

In Libya the violence appears to have been worse and more chaotic than was the case in neighboring Tunisia and Egypt, and there appear to be schisms within the various military and security forces of the state.

Moammar Gadhafi, clearly unwilling to give up his cherished status as crazier than a shithouse rat, today vowed to "die like a martyr."

North African politics sure are fun these days.

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